This
week, the Yankees finally designated a date (8/23) in which Joe Torre will receive his
honored plaque and have his #6 retired. For
2014, they also announced that they will be honoring and presenting an
individualized plaque for Tino Martinez (on 6/21), Goose Gossage (on 6/22), and
Paul O’Neill (on 8/9) in Monument Park, presumably without their respective
numbers (24, 54, and 21) being retired. Lastly,
they additionally announced that Bernie Williams will also be honored with a
plaque, but not until next season; also, without mention of his #51 possibly
being retired.
The
choosing of a separate year for Bernie is interesting and mysterious. My hunch is that Tino, Goose, and Paul were
grouped for this year because, while they were World Series heroes, none of
them originated from the Yankees’ farm system, like Bernie did. Hence, perhaps next year they will also add
Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte to the 2015 grouping.
Maybe they’ll
eventually designate a special Core 4 plague, bringing each of the 4 back for an
additional Monument Park recognition. Of
course, that could only happen after Derek’s #2 is officially retired. I don’t know how or when they can acknowledge
and honor Jeter because no one knows for sure if they’ll make the playoffs or
not, especially since they’re playing in the toughest division in all of
baseball. Last year, ironically, because
of their failure to make the playoffs, it was actually easy and appropriate for
them to have had the maneuverability to schedule Mariano’s honor and retirement
of his special #42 to join Jackie Robinson’s commonly retired #42.
There’s
one thing that will surely come out of these designated
celebrations…disputes. Some folks will
undoubtedly argue that the Yankees have been honoring too many with a plaque
and/or a retired number in Monument Park.
Of course, no other MLB team has had so many championships and All-Star
champion players, making it hard for non-Yankees’ fans to be objective in their arguments. Even most of the Yankees’ fans have had, and
will certainly continue to have, debates over the overload issue and the choices
made, especially when it comes to the prestigious retirement of the Yankees’ numbers.
Thus
far, the Yankees have retired numbers for Billy Martin (#1), Babe Ruth (#3),
Lou Gehrig (#4), Joe DiMaggio (#5), Mickey Mantle (#7), Yogi Berra & Bill
Dickey (#8), Roger Maris (#9), Phil Rizzuto (#10), Thurman Munson (#15), Whitey
Ford (#16), Don Mattingly (#23), Elston Howard (#32), Casey Stengel (#37), Mariano
Rivera & Jackie Robinson (#42), Reggie Jackson (#44), and Ron Guidry (#49). That’s 16 numbers representing 18 players before Joe Torre’s upcoming #6 & Derek Jeter’s inevitable #2.
No one
in their right mind could dispute Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Berra,
Dickey, Ford, Howard, Stengel, or Rivera for their contributions. Nor could they dispute the eventual retiring
of #2 for Jeter. The others are far more
debatable. In fact, I’ve already heard arguments for and against the others (Martin,
Maris, Rizzuto, Munson, Mattingly, Robinson, Jackson, and Guidry). Not many have disputed Torre’s upcoming #6
retirement, but many are questioning the deservingness of possible future retired
number candidates O’Neill (#21), Martinez (#24), Williams (#51), Gossage (#54),
and, possibly Jorge Posada (#20) and Andy Pettitte (#46) - two players the
Yankees haven’t even mentioned yet.
It is
my opinion that they should not retire all contributing players with
multiple championships. Otherwise, they’d
have to backtrack to the 1920s, 30s, 40s, & 50s where many players
contributed towards several championships.
Generally, I believe that the non-Hall of Fame caliber players don’t
deserve to have their numbers retired in Monument Park with the exception of
Thurman Munson and Ron Guidry. The
severe tragedy of Munson obviously shortened his career, but his Rookie of the
Year, All-Star numbers, impressive defensive stats, and his deserving Captain title
and leadership clearly qualified him as one of the greatest Yankees, even with
his tragically shortened career. Ron
Guidry was one of the most dominating starters the Yankees ever had. In fact, his 1978 Cy Young record of 25-3 with
a 1.74 ERA was considered one of the greatest years by any pitcher in MLB history. He
had other years in which he won 16, 18, 17, 21, & 22 games from the mid-70s
through the mid-80s. Guidry also had
another qualification that I consider; he played his whole career with the Yankees.
For me,
if a player is either a Hall of Famer or a borderline Hall of Famer and has
played most or his entire career with the Yankees, then I believe he generally
qualifies for a retired number in Monument Park. Hence, I also support their past retired
number selection of Don Mattingly and a possible selection of Goose Gossage,
but I wouldn’t support retiring the numbers for O’Neill, Martinez, or Williams.
I don’t even support them receiving plaques
just because they each have 4 championship rings, although I respect each of
them and am very grateful for their past contributions. Again, the Yankees have many players that
have won multiple championships throughout the team’s long existence. For them, the Yankees should have plaques
representing the decades with these key types of players designated on the
plaques collectively. For instance, they
could create a plaque for the 1990s decade with an inscription representing Joe
Torre as the manager, each Core 4 member, and perhaps an inclusion of the teams’
other All-Star players which would include Tino Martinez and Paul O’Neill. I think that would be a great solution, while
offering a compromise and adding key names that deserve recognition. That would also help fans realize the
importance of other key contributors towards multiple championships including deserving names such as Lefty Gomez, Tony Lazzeri, Earle Combs, Hank Bauer, Bob Meusel,
and manager Joe McCarthy.
Excellent points. It's great that we honor our heroes, but once they start lowering the standard for inclusion it becomes a bit silly and we'd need to go back and make space for the players you need and some others: Randolph, Nettles, Lyle, White, Chambliss from the last generation of champions. Honestly, I love Tino, but if he gets a plaque, why not Bucky Dent? And from the Torre Era champs, why not David Cone or David Wells or El Duque? Yeah, the more I think about it, the more your group plaque idea makes more sense than what they're doing.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree. Decade plaques would offer well-represented dedications without diluting the honor of Monument Park.
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